In the first of BLACK SABBATH drummer Bill Ward‘s new ongoing show as part of the LA Radio Sessions, which airs Sundays at 10 a.m. (Pacific Time) on 99.1 KLBP-FM in Long Beach and also online at KLBP.org, Bill spoke about his plans to release new solo music in the coming months. He said (as transcribed by BLABBERMOUTH.NET): ”We’ve been in the studio. We’ve been living in the studio, is what we’ve been doing. And we’ve got two albums that are nearly finished. And we will put them out. And we are finishing up. We’ve gotta go back in the studio in about another week. And we’ve got four days left to finish our final overdubs for the newest album that’ll be coming out. And we haven’t got it mixed yet. But we’ll get that done too.”
Regarding his approach to the songwriting on his upcoming two albums, Ward said: “I’ve just let everything go. I basically don’t give an ‘F’, and I think it shows up in the record. I don’t have anything to swagger about. I wanted to play something that plays in my heart and then comes out of my soul. I wanted to play some things that keep me awake at night. And I’ve tried to grow more as a pianist and grow more as a drummer and grow more as a bass player. So I’ve basically written a lot of the bass work and all the piano work on the new songs. And that’s been great for me. I’m trying to grow as a musician. But, like I said, I really don’t give an ‘F’ anymore in terms of being accurate about my lineage or things like that. And I’m playing probably a little more jazz than maybe I would’ve done on previous albums. I’m swearing a lot. I’m using a lot of profanity on this new record, on these new records. But the profanity seems to work really well. It’s just, like, yeah, this is what I’m saying about whatever’s in my life.”
He continued: “It’s very heartfelt. I’ve done something where I feel like I’ve abandoned my critical self. I feel like I’ve abandoned the person that needs to be possibly afraid not to step out a little bit. So I said to that guy, ‘Listen, sit down and take a chair, ’cause we’re stepping out and we’re gonna take more risks.’ And so I’ve taken a lot more risks on these new records, going further into places. Some examples — I’ll give you one tiny bit of an example. One of the tracks on not the first album coming out, but the next album that’ll come out after that, I’m talking about when I spent time playing in the graveyards at Aston Church. When I was a child, I was a choir boy at Aston Church. Aston Church, by the way, is about 200 yards from Villa Park, which is where we’re [original lineup of BLACK SABBATH] gonna be playing in July. And I didn’t know we were gonna be playing in July when I wrote that song. I wanted to write it because I’ve been spending some time thinking about my childhood years in Aston, and I’ve been going back there. And so one of the songs is about being a child and playing in and around the graveyards. And I’ve tried to capsulize that, and I think it’s a pretty good song. And it’s still like a metal thing. My good friend Dave Lombardo [SLAYER] is playing on that particular track. There was some drumming that I knew Dave could play a lot better than I could, so I don’t mind backing away sometimes. I play drums on pretty much — I don’t know — 80 percent of all these records I’m making, but I I love working with guest players, guest people, guest drummers, guest players, bass players, guitar players. I love that. I love being interactive with different musicians. So it’s been a blessing for me.”
Asked if his new music will be released under the BILL WARD BAND banner, the drummer clarified: ”No, [it will] just [be] Bill Ward. However, just to be accurate, we still have BILL WARD BAND stuff that is still unreleased. And one day we’ll get it released.”
Ward, along with the rest of the original lineup of BLACK SABBATH — singer Ozzy Osbourne, guitarist Tony Iommi and bassist Geezer Butler — will play its final concert this summer. Dubbed “Back To The Beginning”, the charity show will be held at Villa Park in Birmingham, United Kingdom on July 5. Support at the gig will come from METALLICA, SLAYER, PANTERA and many more.
“Most of the people that are playing on that show, they’re mates of mine,” Ward said on the latest the LA Radio Sessions show. “I can’t wait to see everybody. I can’t wait to shake hands. A lot of the guys I haven’t seen for a while. So I’m looking forward to seeing everybody, shaking hands, giving them a nice big hug. And just sitting down and maybe having a cup of tea. And I can’t wait. I wanna see Ozz; I love him to bits. And see Terry [Geezer] as well. And Tony. I saw Tony back in England. I was back there in England in the fall of last year. So I saw Tony. I saw him a couple of times, actually. So that was nice. So it’s gonna be great. I’m really looking forward to just seeing everybody. I’m a fan of everybody that’s on that show. I am a huge fan. I think I not only know everybody, but I’m a huge fan as well. But I’ve gotta be honest with you — I’m gonna be getting some sleep, ’cause that’s a nighttime gig. I think we are on at nighttime, so I’m gonna be getting some sleep, ’cause I gotta come out and kick ass. So that’s my job.”
“Accountable Beasts”, Ward‘s first solo album in 18 years, was released in 2015 via iTunes. The CD featured Ward‘s drumming on seven of the album’s nine tracks, as well as contributions from Bill‘s longtime collaborators Keith Lynch (guitar, keyboards),Paul Ill (bass) and Ronnie Ciago (drums),alongside drummer Walter Earl and an array of session singers, including Ward‘s daughter Emily.
Ozzy discussed Ward‘s absence from SABBATH‘s final album, “13”, during an episode of the new Internet TV show “The Madhouse Chronicles”. Released in 2013, it was SABBATH‘s first LP in 35 years to feature Osbourne, Iommi and bassist Geezer Butler. Ozzy said: “I can’t remember why Bill didn’t do it. I’ve gotta be truthful. It wasn’t really BLACK SABBATH because Bill wasn’t there. I mean, if you had Ginger Baker playing with THE BEATLES, it wouldn’t be THE BEATLES.”
Ozzy also talked about the final show of SABBATH‘s “The End” tour, which took place in February 2017 in the band’s original hometown of Birmingham, England. Asked if he was glad it was done at that moment, Osbourne said: “Yeah, but I was sad that Bill wasn’t there. I mean, I mean, Tommy [Clufetos], my drummer [for my solo band], did a great job [stepping in for Bill], but he ain’t Bill Ward.”
Pressed about whether he is happy with the arc of the legend of BLACK SABBATH, Ozzy said: “No. Because it wasn’t BLACK SABBATH that finished it. It’s unfinished. If they wanted to do one more gig with Bill, I would jump at the chance. Do you know what would be cool? If we went to a club or something unannounced and we just got up and did it. We started up in a club.”
Back in September 2022, Ozzy was asked by Stereogum if he still feels good about where “13” left things with SABBATH. He responded: “Not really, because, to be perfectly honest, I didn’t really get a charge from the album. Although [’13’ producer] Rick Rubin is a good friend of mine, I wasn’t really… I was just singing. It was like stepping back in time, but it wasn’t a glorious period. Though Geezer did a lot of lyric writing for me, which he’s very, very good at. It wasn’t an earth-shattering experience for me.”
As for whether BLACK SABBATH is “totally done” in his mind, Osbourne: “I would like to say it’s completely done. I think it’s time. The only thing I really regret, to be honest, is that Bill Ward didn’t play on the [’13’] album. It wasn’t really a BLACK SABBATH album. I’m not saying that one day we might not all go in a room and come up with the perfect BLACK SABBATH album. But I’ll say, [’13’] wasn’t recorded the way BLACK SABBATH recorded records. We’d gone right back past the point where we took charge, back to when someone else had full control of our recording. Which we never did from ‘Vol. 4’ onwards.”
Ward in May 2012 announced that he was declining to join his former SABBATH bandmates for its scheduled dates, as well as the recording of the new album, due to a contractual dispute. After SABBATH shot down Rubin‘s suggestion to replace Ward with Ginger Baker (CREAM) (“I thought, ‘Bloody hell?'” Iommi told Rolling Stone magazine. “I just couldn’t see that.”),Rick suggested RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE drummer Brad Wilk.
In March 2021, Bill admitted to SiriusXM‘s “Trunk Nation With Eddie Trunk” that he no longer had the “chops” and the “ability” to perform with BLACK SABBATH. “I have to be back to 60 years old to be able to do that,” he said.
“I would love to do a studio album with SABBATH, with all the original members,” he continued. “I’m just saying that — I’m just floating that out there. But I’m not done. So, the other three might be done, and I respect that, but no, I’m not done. I think as long as we all exist [laughs] and we’re still breathing in air, I think we have every possibility of making some great music together.”
Ozzy told The Pulse Of Radio during SABBATH‘s last tour that Ward was not in shape to participate. “Bill Ward has got the most physically demanding job of the lot of us, ’cause he’s the timekeeper,” he said. “I don’t think personally he had the chops to pull it off, you know. The saddest thing is that he needed to own up to that, and we could have worked around it, whether we had a drummer on the side with him or something.”
It was rumored that SABBATH wanted to bring a second drummer on the road to share duties with Ward, something that Iommi confirmed in 2017 during a question-and-answer session about SABBATH‘s “Ten Year War” box set.
